refonte talents voleur 1.12

[Ank]

voici un debut, ceci est tout a fait officiel posté par un 'bleu' sur le forum us ici : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... ost1271292

The review is well underway and we wanted to share a sort of first glimpse into the changes being made for the rogue talent review. Keep in mind that these changes are not complete or final, and the below information is likely to alter as we move into our testing phases. While not everything is listed, the below list encompasses the majority of changes being made in the review.

I'll be working in the weeks to come to get as much additional information as possible, but it is likely that quite a bit of the final information regarding talent changes will not be fully announced until the talent calculators go live. Of course you'll also be able to actually play around with the changes too once the Public Test Realms go up.

I'm going to just list the changes and provide additional information where possible or necessary. Let's get to it.

# The following talents have been removed: Improved Deadly Poison, Improved Distract, Throwing Weapon Specialization, Improved Vanish, and Rapid Concealment.

# Improved Instant Poison is now "Improved Poisons" and increases your chance to apply ALL poisons by 2/4/6/8/10%.

# Rapid Concealment has been merged with Camouflage, by combining these talents you not only get a great talent to start off the tree, but obviously it frees up a number of points to be spent elsewhere.

# Murder will now also apply to all finishing moves. The benefit this will provide to output and attack combinations is fairly straightforward.

# Vile Poisons now gives your poisons a chance to resist dispel effects, in addition to increasing poison damage.

# Improved Kidney Shot has been changed, and will instead increase the damage taken by the target while they are affected by Kidney Shot. This talent no longer reduces the cooldown of Kidney Shot.

# Improved Sprint has been changed, and will instead have a 50/100% chance to remove all movement impairing effects when you activate your Sprint ability. This talent no longer reduces the cooldown of Sprint.

# Improved Evasion renamed to Endurance, and will add a Sprint cooldown reduction.

# New talent Weapon Expertise in the Combat tree, increases your weapon skill with all melee weapons. The recovery of damage with an increased weapon skill should be a good boost to overall output.

# Initiative is being reduced to a 3 point talent, but resulting in the same 75% end chance to add an additional combo point.

# Elusiveness is being reduced to a 3 point talent, but resulting in the same 75 sec cooldown reduction to Evasion, Blind, and Vanish.

# Ghostly Strike now has a reduced Energy cost, the reduction of Energy was enough to make it necessary to also reduce the damage output slightly.

# Improved Garrotes damage reduction will be removed. This is being changed as part of an overall improvement for Garrote.

# Setup is being moved higher up in the tree, becoming a 16 point talent with no prerequisites, helping move the talent in reach of specific builds.

# New talent Heightened Senses in the subtlety tree, increases your Stealth detection, and reduces the chance for you to be hit by spells and ranged attacks.

# Hemorrhage will be moved up in the tree to become a 21 point talent. This should help to place the ability in a more reachable position, and allow for a little more versatility with specific talent builds.

# New talent Deadliness in the Subtlety tree, increases your Attack Power by a percentage.

# Premeditation will have its Energy requirement removed, changed to an instant cast, and range increased. Its cooldown will remain the same. Premeditation will now be pre-reqd by Preperation.

# Vanish will now remove effects that allow the caster to remain aware of the rogues presence, such as Mind Vision and Hunters Mark.

# Garrote, Rupture, and Eviscerate are being increased in damage. More details to come.

# Expose Armor will now reduce armor by a percentage.

[Ank]

et maintenant en francais, ai fini de traduire ;)

- les talents suivants on été suprimés : poison mortel ameliore, distraction ameliorée, specialisation arme de jet, disparition amelioré et dissimulation rapide.

- le talent poison instantané amelioré devient poisons ameliorés et augmente les chances d'appliquer TOUT les poisons de 2/4/6/8/10 %

- dissimulation rapide a été fusionné avec dissimulation

- meutre s'applique desormais a tout les 'finishing moves'.

- poisons abominables donne desormais aux poisons une chance de resister au dispell, en plus d'augmenter les degats.

- aiguillon perfide ameliore a ete modifie, et augmente desormais les degats subit par la cible quand elle est sous aiguillon perfide, ce talent ne diminue plus le cooldown.

- sprint amuliore a ete modifie, et a desormais 50/100% de retirer tout les effects de ralentissement quant on active sprint. ce talent ne diminue plus le cooldown.

- reflexes eclaires renome en endurance et diminue en plus le cooldown de sprint.

- nouveau talent 'weapon expertise' en combat, augmente votre skill d'arme avec toutes les armes de melee.

- initiative devaint un talent a 3 points, mais garde les 75% d'ajouter un point de combo.

- insaisisable est desormais un talent a 3 points, mais diminue toujours les cooldown de 75secondes

- frappe fantomatique a desormais un cout en energie plus faible, les degats causes seront aussi diminues.

- la diminution de degats de garrot ameliore est enlevee. ceci est modifie dans le cadre d'une amelioration generale de garrot.

- preparatif remonte dans l'abre devanant un talent necesitant 16 points sans prerequis.

- nouveau talent 'Heightened Senses' en finesse, augmente la detection de la furtivite et reduit les chances d'etre touche par le magie et les attaques a distances.

- hemoragie est monte dans l'abre et necesite desormais 21 points.

- nouveau talent 'Deadliness' en finesse, augmente la puissance d'attaque par un pourcentage.

- premeditation vera son besoin en energie suprime, passe en instant et avec portee ameliorée. le cooldown ne change pas. a desormais preparation en tant que prerequis.

- vanish retire desormais les effects qui permettent de detecter le rogue comme marque du chasseur...

- garrot rupture et evisceration voient leur degats augmentes, plus de details a venir.

- exposer armure retirera desormais un pourcentage d'armure

[cynar]

miam, plein de up en finesse on dirais 

[Virus]

plein? mais ya que ca ... super pour ceux qui avait 0 en finesse ... lol

[Ank]

plein? mais ya que ca ... super pour ceux qui avait 0 en finesse ... lol

c'est vrai que la pour ma spe c'est pas terrible.
pour rappel je suis en 18/33/0, et a part 'weapon expertise', y a pas grand chose d'interressant, le pire c'est que deadliness, qui augemente la puissance d'attaque se retrouve en finesse, n'importe quoi ca :/

[cynar]

A ben, pour moi qui suis spé finesse elle me plait cette mise à jour  8)

[Virus]

en gros c'est pour otpimiser le rogue en pvp déjà que avec mon 20-31 je me fait défoncer par n'importe qui ... donc je fais pas de pvp

Bref maj a la con en perspective  :(

[cynar]

De toute façon tant que c'est pas officialisé en annonce sur les sites de Wow ca peut changer, et après faut voir plus en détail ce que ca fait ( car bon, la on a pas forcément prit 2h à réfléchir sur tout les impactes).

[Nanbanjin]

je confirme, les talents du paladins ont changé de nombreuses fois durant la période de la Maj concernée. Même quand le simulateur de talent était en place, ils en ont changés certains ou changés de place. Bref, patience encore et toujours.